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Your unit was carefully inspected and tested at our factory. We take pride in producing one of the finest Water Heaters for marine use. Please take the time to read this manual carefully;. Contact Force 10 for assistance. The tank and heat exchanger are aluminum. Do not use any chemicals in the heat exchanger that may cause damage to it. Seal all pipe fittings with Teflon tape or Loctite thread sealant. A drain hose should be installed to comply with ABYC standards. (Section H-23 (126.96.36.199) in the Installation of Potable Water Systems chapter.) Due to thermal expansion the SRV may weep slightly. Connect the Neutral to the unused screw terminal on the heating element marked with a white “N”. 4. A strain relief should be installed in the hole on the front of the access panel to secure the AC wire. The thermostat is non-adjustable. HEAT EXCHANGER When the Water Heater is operating from the Heat Exchanger, water temperature in the tank will approach the temperature of the engine coolant. Flush water through the tank to eliminate any trapped air. 2. Check all connections for leaks. 3. Apply power to the Water Heater and check to ensure the water is hot. The water will meet maximum temperature within (2) hour. Richmond, BC Canada V6V 1C9 Fax to: (604) 522-9608. Note: This is a new page for displaying documents. The first time a document is loaded will take a little longer than it will for the next person so please be patient if it takes time.We have only added an inch or two to most models, but the new larger size may pose a problem when choosing a replacement if your water heater is installed in a tight space.Boilers View All. Storage Tanks View All. Instruction Manuals. Commercial Gas. Commercial Electric. Commercial Tankless. Force 10 Water Heater Parts. Do not use combustible chemicals such or subject them to impact or force. State Water Heaters Water Heater User Manuals Download User manuals, State water heaters Water heater Operating guides and Service manuals.
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Find the user manual you need for your home appliance products and more at ManualsOnline.You may type any combination of product name, family, size, model number, etc. Marey This pdf ebook is one of digital edition of Vetus Water Heater Manual Download that can be search along. Posts: 120Boat: Bateau TW28 Long Cabin. Posts: 3,585Followed instructions. No problems. Only have an hour or two running on engine and it warms the water. River is still pretty cold and engine won't go over 120 degs.Posts: 120Posts: 10,104If it isn't installed, the valve shuts off coolant flow to the engine and the engine overheats. This isn't completely obvious from the instructions and IMO is a silly way to rig a hot water heater. The non-scald device is one of those things that protect you from yourself, but I don't think destroying the engine to prevent a possible hot water burn is a good tradeoff. I helped a friend install one and we simply shorted around the anti-scald device. Rigging a bypass loop was simply too complicated for the installation space and existing plumbing. MarkPosts: 120Boat: Gulfstar SM 40. Posts: 5I made sure there was no air, and put a separate header tank for the heater. I cannot mount my heater below the level of the engine hot water circuit. I used the factory installed hot water heater circuit points that Beta installed for me on my new 50 hp engine. I am thinking that there is simply not enough pressure in the system to get the coolant to flow the 12 inches or so, up to the top of the heater. Any suggestions? Also I am thinking of installing a 12V heater element instead of the 110V, so that I can use the excess power from my solar panels to heat the water. Now, by using the inverter, there is a residual draw of about 100 amps (at noon when I am getting 30 amps from my panels) from my batteries, which I think could damage them. I am at home now and I do not know if the factory element is a bolt in or screw in. If anyone knows, let me know.
Any suggestions would be appreciated, Doug Gulfstar 40Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt). Posts: 38,506Boat: Seafarer 30 Impetuous. Posts: 426Then there would be loss in the tranfer of heat. Re: your issue - A friend of mine has a fresh water cooled Yanmar. His old water heater died, so he replaced with a Force 10. He could get hot water, until he took off the anti-scald valve all together, and ran directly into the hot water in (as the unit came a couple years ago before the anti-scald device). He said it made a big difference.Boat: Conser 47 Shearwater. Posts: 61I have a big bank of solar panels.about 400 watts worth and would love to avoid an engine heat exchanger unit.Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt). Posts: 38,506. Log into your account your username your password Forgot your password. Password recovery Recover your password your email Search About Steve Upcoming Events Articles Photo Gallery Videos Travelogues Seaworthy and Challenges Partners SDMC Lecture Offerings Ask Steve Sample Inspection Reports Subscribe SDMC Webinar Lecture Series Sign in Welcome. Log into your account your username your password Forgot your password. Get help Password recovery Recover your password your email A password will be e-mailed to you. No, in fact this is a quote from a story about a water heater that exploded in a Seattle suburb in 2001. The water heater began life located in a restaurant and its career ended more than 400 feet away in the parking lot of a Pizza Hut. Its meteoric traverse took the appliance over several businesses and a busy four lane intersection. Four bystanders were injured and several buildings were severely damaged as a result of the concussion. Although not common, water heaters have been known to explode in this manner from time to time. Reports in the case of the flying water heater indicated that the pressure relief valve had been capped and the water heater partially drained,the combination of which created a steam explosion.
The thought of this occurring aboard a cruising vessel is, well, unthinkable. With a few exceptions, most electric marine water heaters are simply scaled versions of those used in homes and businesses the world over. Their components are relatively simple. An electric heating element is immersed in the water contained within the heater’s tank. It in turn is controlled by a thermostat which regulates the temperature of the water. When electricity is applied the heating element warms the water within until the set point on the thermostat, they are adjustable, is reached, at which point the heating element turns off. Water heaters also typically include an important safety device, the aforementioned pressure relief valve. This is designed to relieve pressure within the water heater’s tank in the event of a malfunction. If, for instance, the thermostat that controls the electric heating element malfunctions, and the water within the heater rises to the boiling point, creating steam and the extreme pressure, an example of which is the water heater that made a one way trip to Pizza Hut, the pressure relief valve will open and vent the pressure before the condition goes super critical. Of course, if the pressure relief valve is damaged, malfunctioning or capped, then it won’t be able to provide this all too necessary safety feature. The pressure relief valve is visible in this image, at the upper right corner of the water heater case. Note the attached red and blue trace extension hose. Even when a pressure relief valve is working properly it can pose a hazard. Several years ago, while I was managing a boat yard that was responsible for commissioning new vessels, a mechanic was injured by a water heater as he worked alongside it when the pressure relief valve unexpectedly vented, flooding the area with boiling water and steam.
Fortunately his injuries were not severe, however, a subsequent investigation revealed that the thermostat had been improperly wired, essentially bypassing its important control function, rendering the heating element continuously energized. For this reason, the discharge of a water heater’s pressure relief valve should be securely plumbed into the bilge or away from areas that may be occupied at any time. Flimsy hose or tubing simply slipped over the valve’s outlet pipe is inadequate, as it will be blown off by high pressure water and steam. It must be robust and securely clamped in place. One feature that marine water heaters, for those so equipped, do not share with those ashore is the heat exchanger. The heat exchanger, much like the one on your engine or generator, simply transfers heat generated elsewhere, in the engine’s closed cooling system or from a diesel-fired hydronic heating system, to the water inside the water heater’s tank. This arrangement is extremely common and has been used effectively for decades. Instead of sending all of the excess heat created by the engine out with the exhaust some of it is reclaimed for washing dishes, taking showers etc. A high quality finned copper heat exchanger tube is visible inside this cut away heat exchanger, it’s the long pipe making multiple S turns. The electric heating element is visible just above it. The longer a heat exchanger is and the more surface area it has, hence the fins, the more efficiently and quickly it will heat the water. This water heater’s interior is copper to reduce the formation of bacteria. As well as the heat exchanger scenario works, there are a few caveats associated with its use. Utilizing engine coolant to make hot water means the water heater must become part of the engine’s closed or coolant-filled cooling system.
While most engine manufacturers make provisions for a water heater connection, when pressed they aren’t keen on the idea because it takes the control, design and implementation of the cooling system out of their hands. If the engine’s cooling system fails because of a design or manufacturing flaw, the engine manufacturer is usually responsible for repairs, provided the engine is under warranty. If, however, the plumbing between the engine and the water heater fails, the engine will almost certainly overheat and it may do so to the point of self destruction. The hose used for this water heater plumbing is woefully inadequate (it is, in fact, pneumatic hose), and in spite of the short time it’s been installed is already deteriorating. If this hose fails coolant will spill, and the engine will rapidly overheat. The engine manufacturer, however, bears no responsibility for this event. Therefore, make certain the hose used to connect the engine’s cooling system to the water heater is especially rugged, chafe resistant and robust; hose that carries a J2006R “Marine Wet Exhaust” rating is ideally suited for this role, while ordinary “heater hose”, in spite of its name, may not be up to the task because of its propensity to crush, kink and chafe when routed off the engine and through the vessel. Two examples of remote expansion tanks shown above, these ensure that the highest opening in the engine’s closed cooling system remains above the water heater, which prevents air from being trapped within the system. Additionally, it’s important that when a water heater is connected to an engine’s closed cooling system that certain protocols as well as the engine manufacturer’s instructions for such an arrangement are followed closely. Primary among these is the location or elevation of the water heater.
If the heat exchanger within the water heater or any portion of the plumbing between the engine and the water heater is located above the engine’s expansion tank cap, then a remote expansion tank must be plumbed into the system. This tank, with its own pressure cap, then becomes the primary fill point for the closed cooling system, rendering the original legacy fill cap dormant and unusable. In most cases, when a remote expansion tank is installed it must use a pressure cap that the engine manufacturer calls for while the original cap located on the engine must be replaced with a higher pressure rating cap. The reason for thiscap swap is to ensure that only the highest cap in the system, the one that can vent air, opens and closes with temperature induced pressure changes. Another peculiarity of the marine water heater when it’s interconnected with the engine’s closed cooling system is the temperature of the water it’s capable of producing. This is of particular concern with marine water heaters because they are turned on and off, which means they often contain stagnant, tepid water, which is an incubator for water bornbacteria. As you can see, there’s not much of a range between comfort and pain or potential injury. Some like it hot, but too hot can cause injury. Without any external control, water exiting the water heater may be nearly this hot, which clearly presents a burn risk. The temperature of the coolant as it leaves the engine on its way to the water heater is high, too high for safely making domestic hot water. There are two ways this potential safety hazard may be dealt with, both of which offer the same point-of-source approach. The first involves using a mixing or tempering valve. This adjustable device, it’s installed at the water heater, controls the temperature of the water leaving the water heater by mixing it with cold water in order to lower its temperature to the desired level.
Therefore, regardless of the temperature of the water in the water heater or the coolant running through the heat exchanger, the output temperature remains constant. Some water heaters come equipped with mixing valves, those from both Indel, www.indelmarineuse.com and Quick www.quickusa.com for instance (the latter’s is optional). Mixing valves can be added to virtually any water heater as an aftermarket item, after which the water heater’s thermostat can be increased to maintain a higher pre-product water temperature. It’s important to note that not all mixing valves’ reaction times are quick enough to consider them as anti-scald protection. A variety of standards exist concerning the design and performance of these valves, for more information on this subject visit A stock mixing valve, top, that’s provided as part of this water heater, along with an aftermarket installation shown on the bottom. Use and adjustment of this device prevents the water heater from supplying water that’s too hot, whether it’s created by the engine or an electric element. The other method utilizes a component known as a temperature compensation valve or TCV, which is plumbed, externally, to the water heater’s coolant heat exchanger while sensing output water temperature. The beauty of either of these approaches is that they limit the temperature of the water leaving a water heater, regardless of whether the heating source is the electric element or the engine’s coolant. Quick reacting anti-scald valves are, of course, desirable, particularly for showers and sinks; however, it may not be practical or economical to equip every fixture aboard with one of these, particularly after a vessel is built. That’s where mixing valves and TCVs come in. If your water heater is connected to your engine’s cooling system you’re playing with fire unless you install one of these inexpensive and useful devices. For more information on the services provided by S teve D’Antonio Marine Consulting, Inc.
Obviously we should have turned down the flame, but we were “baking” on all five stoves at the same time, so that conditions (ambient temperature and wind speed) would be the same for all, and, hey, we just didn’t check it fast enough. Anyway, judging from the red glow of the flame spreader, heat is very uniform across the cooking surface. It looks great when new, but like the other kettle types, tends to become more discolored after use than the brushed finishes. The 11,000 Btu burner needs to be watched, but will be appreciated when cooking on a windy day.Si-Port offers both the round-kettle style and the cylindrical or box-style (as they call it) grill. Each comes in two sizes, the smaller with 7,000 Btu burners, the larger with 12,000 Btu burners. The kettle type has a polished stainless steel lid and brushed body. The box type is all brushed stainless. While in some literature Willingham says the Sport Extreme is the only grill with this feature, he elsewhere acknowledges that the Magma kettle has been made “pot friendly” but still criticizes it for its star-type burner and lack of hinged lid. The feet are short and do not obviate the use of other mounts for the rail and fish rod holder. Like the Force 10, it has a corrugated stainless steel heat spreader, but in four sections. And, where the Force 10 has a rod grate over the cooking surface, the Supreme cooks right on the heat spreader. There is room for a warming tray and a nice grease catcher underneath, but it must be removed from the back instead of the side. If it’s hanging over the water, this could be difficult for the operator. If you use these on their feet, say on a dock, you have to elevate them a foot or so because the gas bottle must hang down. This is an annoyance you won’t suffer when mounted on the boat though. Both grills burned hot and evenly.
The hinged lid of the kettle model at first seemed like a convenience, but because you grab the handle on top rather than a side handle (as with the box-type model), you risk burning your wrist or forearm as you reach all the way back. This problem could be avoided if the lids didn’t hinge back so far, well over 90 degrees. Again, most grease never makes it to the drip pan, but what can you do. Avoid fatty foods, that’s what. The pizza dough was cooked evenly and the finished bread was edible, perhaps because these grills didn’t get as hot as some others. But they are heavier and more expensive.We’d prefer side handles or an unhinged lid. In appearance, the large model is similar to the large Sport Extreme model tested, with angular lids rather than the round lid of the Force 10. There’s also a handsome brass name plate on the front. Other standard features include metal feet (that appear to be black anodized aluminum) with studs for the optional rail mount, an igniter and the same corrugated stainless cook surface used by the large Sport Extreme grill. There is a convenient grease tray removable from the front. The grill vents between the lid and body, in the back. There are no adjustable vent holes. The long burner has a built-in flame spreader welded on top.The small welds on our grill show a faint bit of rust. More assembly is required than with other models. The manual has minimal instructions and crude computer drawings. While the unit went together fine, we would have appreciated some advice, like installing the igniter before the burner, because the latter got in the way. We forgot to spray Pam on the corrugated stainless steel cooking surface and so had a lot of meat stick to it (we’re not sure what the statement in the Defender catalog means when it says, “unique non-stick, no flare cooking surface.”) The plates are easy to remove and wash, however.
With the pizza dough, this appears to be a liability, but on a cold, windy day, it might just as easily be an asset. The thermometer is a nice feature. The rusty welds are a worry, but none of these grills is likely to retain its shiny new appearance for long. Tasco now makes two box-style grills. Tasco owner Clifford Bodge says they were designed in consultation with The Moorings. Instead of being welded, most parts are riveted. It’s adjustable up to 10,000 Btus. The cooking surface is a stainless grate, identical to a lower grate that holds the lava rocks. Cleaning this grill is no pleasure, if you want to go below the rocks, because they’ll have to be removed first. And there is no grease drip pan. The rail mount has a handy quick release via a fastpin, perhaps the slickest arrangement of the lot. There are non-adjustable vent holes on both ends. The burger over the open flame cooked somewhat faster, and the pizza dough over open flame was badly burned. The dough over the lava rocks baked nicely. The lava rocks may do a better job of distributing heat than the stainless plates, but make clean-up a bit more difficult. Two bottom holes, under a sliding plate, are for removing charcoal in that model. Therefore, it seems sensible to recommend the kettle grills for smaller boats and the cylindrical grills for larger boats, which can tolerate the weight and have the room to stow them in a locker. We’d take the Magma if its large line of accessories is important. Its lid is removable and can be positioned at any place around the grill to block the wind while you work. Then again, so are the Dickinson Sea-B-Que and Sport Supreme, which are larger and correspondingly more expensive. Between these two, again, it’s essentially a toss-up. If we planned to use the grill on the dock or on shore as well as aboard, we’d take the largest grill, and that would be the Sport Supreme. The same goes if we had a really big boat and could tolerate its weight and size.
Two years out of Emory University, after a brief stint as a sportswriter, he set out from Miami aboard a 60-year-old wooden William Atkin ketch named Tosca. For 10 years, he and writer-photographer Theresa Gibbons explored the Caribbean, crossed the Pacific, and cruised Southeast Asia aboard Tosca, working along the way as journalists and documenting their adventures for various travel and sailing publications, including Cruising World, Sail, Sailing, Cruising Helmsman, and Sailing World. Upon his return to land life, Darrell became the associate editor, then senior editor at Cruising World magazine, where he worked for five years. Before taking on the editor’s position at Practical Sailor, Darrell was the editor of Offshore magazine, a boating-lifestyle magazine serving the New England area. Darrell has won multiple awards from Boating Writer’s International, including the Monk Farnham award for editorial excellence. He holds a U.S. Coast Guard 100-ton Master license and has worked as a harbor pilot and skippered a variety of commercial charter boats. Some of these practices are inherently risky, and these are good people who don’t want to risk someone misunderstanding their advice, or applying it to situations where it isn’t valid. The barbecue regulators are designed to accept disposable propane bottles, or can be connected to a large tank with an optional hose. Flavour plates are included to spread heat evenly. Accessories are sold separately. Rated BTU 13 000 Please Sign in or create an account. Boat: Norseman 447. Posts: 405Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop. Posts: 19,543Sounds like it blows itself out. On my Mariner that behavior is on the burners (not all of them), and I believe they need new thermocouples. You may need a gas specialist, seeing as how it's Oz.Boat: Norseman 447. Posts: 405Posts: 7,505A: There are (3) possible issues: The Control knob may be hitting the control panel. Remove the knob and try lighting the burner.
The Thermocouple is either dirty, has a poor ground connection or has failed. The solenoid inside the valve has failed.Boat: Valiant V40. Posts: 771Make sure it is there and secure. This is the sensing end of the thermocouple and needs to be in the flame, clean and tight. 2. Look at the valve the knob is working. The thermocouple attaches to the valve. Carefully clean the end and the place where it attaches to the valve. This is actually an electrical connection and needs as good, clean and secure connection.Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'. Posts: 8,895The thermocouple is probably the same as you can get a Lowes for a grill. So don't pay an exorbitant price from the stove maker. They are not unique. There may be difference in the capillary tube length so measure what you have and get the same if replacing. It is for temp control. You probably have a claxon valve I would suspect it for the same reasons. JMOBoat: Catalina 30. Posts: 697For the circuit to be complete, the connection has to be clean on both ends: at the valve AND where the thermocouple mounts to the burner or bracket. Boat: Catalina 30. Posts: 697The thermocouple is probably the same as you can get a Lowes for a grill (snip) Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'. Posts: 8,895I feel sure Lowes has thermocouples they sell gas ranges. Maybe in the appliance parts not grill parts ? I feel sure Lowes has thermocouples they sell gas ranges. Maybe in the appliance parts not grill parts? Looks like Lowes sells a number of thermocouples. Boat: GibSea 472. Posts: 465It kept flaming out when I released the knob on all the burners. The reason: the thermocouple sensor(the little spigot that sticks out close to the burner) contacts to the burner is corroded, or dirty, and the electrical ground contact is lost.Boat: Sundeer 64. Posts: 153Their service was amazing!! An email and a phone call and all was solved.Boat: Norseman 447. Posts: 405Boat: Catalina 30.
Posts: 697Looks like Lowes sells a number of thermocouples. Attachment 154282 None of their listed TCs will work in a Force 10, for the reasons stated. And I've never seen a BBQ-type grill with a thermocouple. If a gas grill had a thermocouple, the lighting process would be the same as with the Force 10 and other marine stoves: you'd have to push the burner knob in and hold it in for a second or two after the flame was established, or it would cut off the gas flow.